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Rodney Allen's avatar

I do like the metaphor. I can imagine people in Arianism, Montanism, etc to be kind loving people that are sincere and want to be Christ followers….. drip, drip, drip. But I no longer believe in eternal conscious torment which is not particularly palatable to the majority. Two of my children have been damaged psychologically by my wife and I dragging them through charismatic/pentecostal spaces when they were young. Therefore I have a bias. We still have faith (our children don’t) and I think what is important is faith expressing itself through love.

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mshedden's avatar

Could you tease out if being affirming is an instance of bad plumbing and what theologically the plumber might say is wrong?

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