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Lyle Enright's avatar

I'm sure Burton uses the word "mimetic" very intentionally to gloss Rene Girard, both his theories and the fact that many of the "mimetic Christians" she's talking about seem to find their way to the faith through Girard's influence or those of his disciples. Ironically, there's a lot of mimesis going on in that very process; you see it in J. D. Vance's own enamored description of Thiel as someone who modeled for him that "faith and reason" weren't incompatible. I think a fair number of these conversion stories come down to wanting to imitate someone, to achieve the "quality of being" they model.

This has gone on *inside* the church for a long time, too, as the born-again start climbing the ladder to holiness--or at least, what they've been told holiness is, what they've seen modeled for them. And I think this dynamic dovetails with what Burton is talking about.

And it is of course glaring that no one seems to have *Christ* in mind as the model they're trying to follow, but rather "some Christian in particular." Usually the most verbose and combative kind. The culture warriors. Which makes sense; the algorithms just don't select for "meekness and humility of heart" when providing us with new models to imitate.

Girard's own understanding of Christ as meek, self-giving, imitating the Father unto absolute solidarity with the victims of violence... It's so far and away what many of these folks see themselves as converting into. I can chalk it up to incorrigibility or to people simply not understanding their sage in the ways they think they do, but I've got a feeling it's more complex than that, in ways that worry me.

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Wes H's avatar

Kristen,

I've shared these concerns and I think this also relates to your essay "Can I Get A Witness?"

The other issue is there are now a lot of recent converts who have developed or already had fairly large online or media/book followings, who now have presence and reach to say things that aren't necessarily well formed or congruent with what many traditions or scriptural teachings or authorities (including that of their own churches) are.

A lot of this is a matter of what could be called spiritual maturity for a new convert, if they aren't being "checked" and discipled by genuine church leadership / priestly authorities who are involved in their lives personally and not just for their platforms, intellectual or political engagement, or perceived evangelistic reach.

This includes Ayaan to some extant, Paul Kingsnorth (on the other end of the spectrum), Matthew Crawford, and others (David Brooks could probably be said to be someone in this position, as someone more "mainstream". Tara could be considered so though she seems more sufficiently nuanced and grounded and critical. I also have concerns about French and Tish Warren but that's sort of another issue). I've heard at least two of these people in person and from reading their work and other responses came to the conclusion that many of them could be said to have incomplete views of God, Jesus, and what the Christian walk is, and sometimes seem like they speak too confidently from their understanding and platforms without being checked or having gone through trials for the perfection of their faith.

I think it's also a failing of the institutional church and church leadership (crisis of authority?) that things either aren't defined robustly and rigorously, emphasis on piety has diminished, and many leaders care more about splashy engagement with politically or culturally adjacent issues, or persuasive propositionalism, than people quietly plodding along the journey of faith.. combined with the incentive pressures of social media image and 'brand', and opportunistic church leaders with a cultural renewal mindset who view that as a form of evangelism, and this is what we get.

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