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Jordan J. Andlovec's avatar

I wholeheartedly agree, the terms (and the related industries built around their opposing tribes) need to be put out to pasture. My wife and I came up in (separate) complementarian churches, and when we got married we found that the attending marriage “roles” for that position were, in practice, silly.

After a few years of assessing our own positions we can to the belief that Scripture doesn’t ultimately limit the ordination of pastors to men only, but we didn’t like the term “egalitarian” because it seems to flatten out the distinctions between men and women, who need each others unique qualities, not only in marriage but in ministry as well. One could say that they “complement” one another, but apparently that word is taken, so we’ve just thrown out the terms altogether.

Also, my wife is now a pastor now, and it in no way changed her ontological value. So thanks for that little gem of a reflection.

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Young Woong Yi's avatar

Kirsten,

Thanks for this post. I wholeheartedly agree with you on every point. You provide a very fair treatment of both sides of this genuinely stupid debate. I only say it is "stupid" because we aren't talking about words that have been used for centuries in church history, but are debating very recent words (at least as it pertains to "complementarian" coined by Piper and Grudem).

Personally, during the height of my theological formation, all I drank was the complementarian kool-aid. I've been about a year or so into my journey away from that "tribe", but my journey is not leading me toward egalitarianism (and especially not patriarchy).

I plan on writing a post on this soon, but it's more of a post with more questions than answers or statements.

Thanks for your thoughts here! They provide more for me to chew on.

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