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Todd Billings's avatar

I concur with your sense that imagining God's knowledge as "propositional" is a profound mistake. It risks turning God into an object in the world, in a sense -- rather than the one in whom we live, move, and have our being. If scripture itself is God's "baby-talk" to us (via Calvin), why would we think that propositional knowledge is higher than the "babble" that God has graciously given us, in a true revelation which is true in relation to our tiny capacities, but in no sense "adequate" in relation to God's knowledge?? I sense that Junius could be helpful holding this together...https://www.amazon.com/Treatise-True-Theology-Franciscus-Junius-ebook/dp/B00OU0G8T8/

I wonder whether there is something right and yet relatively superficial about the “intersubjective” idea. It's not "propositional" knowledge, a plus. But one really affirms—following, for example, Junius and the archetypal/ectypal distinction—that God’s knowledge of himself (archetypal) is qualitatively different from the knowledge in which we participate (ectypal), through the Son and by the Spirit, then we should not be especially optimistic that we can classify God’s self-knowledge as a “type” of knowledge which is intelligible to us.

What we can know, however, is that in our participatory knowledge God stoops to us like a nurse (Calvin), speaking “baby talk” that gives us real knowledge—knowledge inseparable from fellowship, and inseparable from the Spirit’s presence in us in Christ. It is shot through with God's astonishing love...

Derek Rishmawy's avatar

Haven't gone to look at Barth on this, but you know one of the classic ways of thinking about God's knowledge is his knowledge of his own potencies, capacities, etc. Of course, this is the Triune God's self-knowledge, knowledge possessed by and existing as the knowing, loving, and willing of the simple God who is Father, Son, and Spirit. Thinking around that dynamic probably has some payoff. Thanks!

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